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Hunter Pence and Shane Victorino: How are you doing?
by Scott Butler 10/21/12

I just got finished ripping Ruben Amaro for hacking up the 2012 Phillies, but I left out two of his best moves: trading Hunter Pence and Shane Victorino. Looks like he timed the trades well, because it hasn't been much of a vacation on the west coast for Pence and Victorino since leaving the Phillies.

It is hard not to notice that Hunter Pence is hitting .105 in the NLCS and I just had to take a look at how Hunter and Shane have done with their new teams.

Hunter Pence since trade from Phillies to Giants

In 59 games with the San Francisco Giants, Hunter Pence hit .219 with a .287 OBP, .384 SLG, .671 OPS, and 7 home runs.

But get this: despite the awful numbers I mentioned, he knocked in 45 runs in 59 games. That is a ridiculous total which works out to 124 RBI over a full season. What is more amazing is that his home run pace with the Giants (19 HR over 162 games) is significantly less than that with the Phillies (27 HR over 162 games).

Here are Pence's numbers with the Giants as they compare to those with the Phillies and over his career.

Hunter Pence 2012 & Career Stats

  G AVG OBP SLG OPS HR RBI
Phillies 2012 101 .271 .336 .447 .784 17 59
Giants 2012 59 .219 .287 .384 .671 7 45
Career 894 .285 .339 .475 .813 138 516

Shane Victorino since trade from Phillies to Dodgers

Victorino's drop was far less severe than Pence's, but it was still a struggle for Victorino in Los Angeles. In 53 games with the Los Angeles Dodgers, Shane Victorino hit .245 with a .316 OBP, .351 SLG, .667 OPS, 2 HR, and 15 RBI. Each of those stats mark a decrease over those with the Phillies. The good news for Phillies fans is that it means Victorino will be much cheaper if the Phillies choose to bring him back (although reports say they probably will not).

Here are Victorino's numbers with the Giants as they compare to those with the Phillies and over his career.

Shane Victorino 2012 & Career Stats

  G AVG OBP SLG OPS HR RBI
Phillies 2012 101 .261 .324 .401 .724 9 40
Dodgers 2012 53 .245 .316 .351 .667 2 15
Career 1076 .275 .341 .430 .770 90 409

Maybe Philadelphia isn't such a bad place after all.

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